Smith And Wesson Model 915 Manual Dexterity

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I like the SD9 feel and trigger pull. Is there one with an exterior safety? Do you feel the need for one? Thanks Most self-defense (SD) carry guns do not have an external safety. In a self-defense situation, forgetting the safety is on can mean the difference between life or death. They are designed to be drawn and fired.

To compensate, they generally have a heavier, longer trigger pull to reduce the chances of an accidental discharge, as you have to WANT to pull the trigger for them to fire. None of the guns I carry have an external safety. My brain is the safety.

An exterior safety on a pistol is something one can refer to as a 'proprietary to the user' safety, meaning, should someone other than the user get his hands on your gun, he may not be familiar enough with it to immediately shoot you with it. I knew one police officer that worked around here who carried his S&W Model 39 on safety. He was jumped,, beaten down, disarmed and left for dead because by the time the punks had figured out and flipped the thumb safety on his gun, they had also pushed the magazine release and dumped the mag, which bounced under their car.

The M-39 also has a magazine safety, so the gun can't be fired when there is no mag in, regardless if the chamber has a round in it. The thumb safety saved his life, in this case. Wouldn't happen to you, someone getting your gun?

Don't be so sure. One in five American cops are killed with either their own gun or the gun taken from another cop. Did some research on this in the 1970's. The rangemaster grabbed people wandering their building and took them into the range.

He had a loaded.38 Special revolver and a Colt 1911, loaded with the safety on, sitting on a table and a target hanging a few yards downrange. He told them, at the signal, to pick up the revolver and shoot it. The average time was under 2 seconds. Same drill with the 1911, the average time was 17 seconds. Sure, some of the shooters knew what a 1911 was and got the shot off quickly but others never figured it out and never got off a shot. But there was an average difference of 15 seconds.

15 seconds is time enough to put a second plan into action. If nothing else, even at my age, I can run a long ways in 15 seconds! Some think a thumb safety will slow you down.

It shouldn't. It takes much less time to the flick the safety off than it does to draw and raise your pistol, and since you can do both at the same time, working the safety while drawing the gun, it shouldn't slow you down at all, unless you are incredibly ham-fisted, in which case. It's a simple device, a thumb safety. It takes very little practice to make it part of your draw stroke. Do you have to remember to put your finger on the trigger when your muzzle covers the target? Do you have to remember to move your foot from the gas pedal to the brake pedal when you want to stop your car?

No, a little training and practice make it natural. Learning a thumb safety is in the same class of difficulty to learn. It's not rocket science. Does this matter? Mebbe, mebbe not. What will YOUR gunfight be like? In any event, you can have a choice in the matter when you pick your sidearm.

Choice is good. Before Glock graced the world with its presence, the vast majority of semi auto pistols had safeties, and people were able to adequately defend themselves just fine. Save the 'my safety is between my ears'. It's a stupid old cliche and repeated on the Internet ad nauseum because those who say it think it gives them credibility. Safeties have saved lives. There is no debating that.

There is no evidence that their presence has caused a death or injury. For every one case that you can find me that they have caused a death or injury, I'll find you 100 where they have been a benefit. Why don't rifles and shotguns get the same attitude that a safety can get you killed? Don't we use shotguns and rifles for defense as well? My Ruger SR9 has a safety. It was bought for that exact reason.

I shoot it often. And never have I forgotten to disengage it. It's so intuitive I don't even think about it. Just like I don't think about stepping on the brake pedal before I shift out of park. I don't look at the gear shift either as I shift gears. The odds of any of us actually using a weapon in self defense are astronomical.

Yet we all routinely handle weapons. Odds are much better of a negligent discharge with a safety less weapon. I have a sw915 and like having the safety but I am leary of the DA/SA; also I usually carry a sw640. The SD9VE double action is 'lighter' than the sw640 trigger and much lighter than the DA on the 915.

I am more concerned with accidental discharge with the SD915, ie. Pulling from a holster, grabbing for it in a glove box. I like the SD9VE double action and am thinking of buying it but just want some feed back on the accidental discharge. Really really appreaciate all the comments I am getting. Bottom line is I need to get to the range a least once a month. So, accidental discharge is my main concern, have no idea if that is a valid concern with the SD9 or not and would love to hear from those loving and owning the SD9 regarding that.

Thanks for all the comments and information, very helpful! Before Glock graced the world with its presence, the vast majority of semi auto pistols had safeties, and people were able to adequately defend themselves just fine. Save the 'my safety is between my ears'. It's a stupid old cliche and repeated on the Internet ad nauseum because those who say it think it gives them credibility. Safeties have saved lives. There is no debating that.

Don't we use shotguns and rifles for defense as well? My Ruger SR9 has a safety. It was bought for that exact reason.

Yet we all routinely handle weapons. Odds are much better of a negligent discharge with a safety less weapon. It's not a cliche. It's is a fact. You are the safety. Only you can pull the trigger, it will not shoot all on its own.

Just as they have saved lives, idiots have also managed to bypass them. Don't believe me? Many videos of guys bypassing TWO safeties (3 if you count the person) and shoot themselves. Some of my guns have safeties, some dont. They are optional and I bought the gun cause I like the gun and not for the safety. So far I have never used one and my guns have not gone off. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk.

It's not a cliche. It's is a fact. You are the safety. Only you can pull the trigger, it will not shoot all on its own. Just as they have saved lives, idiots have also managed to bypass them. Don't believe me? Many videos of guys bypassing TWO safeties (3 if you count the person) and shoot themselves.

Some of my guns have safeties, some dont. They are optional and I bought the gun cause I like the gun and not for the safety. So far I have never used one and my guns have not gone off. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Yeah. You are the safety.

A human being who is capable of having a brain fart and letting a round to that you didn't mean to. Professional shooters have had them. Cops have had them. Soldiers have had them. Think you can't?

A manual safety doesn't negate the possibility of an ND. But it lowers it. And there is no debating that. Not to mention unauthorized users getting their hands on the gun and not firing a shot. Remember the woman in Walmart who had her gun (M&P Shield) in the little holster pocket in her purse, taken out by her 3 year old who then shot and killed the mother? I highly doubt the woman had the safety on that gun. She probably had the no safety version, or if she had the standard model the safety was off.

I don't see a 3 year old having the ability of strength to take the safety off that weapon. Pulling the trigger is intuitive. Maybe a big 1911 trigger might draw your attention. But the little bitty nub of a safety lever on the Shield? The woman was negligent in taking her eyes off that gun and her child. But she was human. She made a mistake.

Just like you or I can make. Not sure what any of this silly rant has to do with the question you asked previously, or the answer I gave. You're all over the place. Best of luck to you. It's not a rant.

And I'm not all over the place. The OP wanted to know if a DAO handgun (which the SD9 is not, but we know what he meant) could be found with a manual safety. Then rather than just answer the question, many here went into the whole 'my safety is between my ears' and 'a safety will get you killed' routine, so the discussion changed.

I gave my opinion. I don't see them as liabilities. Before Glock came along, most semi auto pistols had them, and nobody felt like they were dead men walking because of them. There have been numerous documented cases where having a safety saved lives, and god knows how many undocumented cases because nobody got hurt and the cops weren't called. Then when I asked why they aren't such liabilities with defensive rifles or shotguns, you said because defensive rifles or shotguns aren't carried in your waistband and called into action with little or no warning. As if nobody has ever used a long gun in self defense with little or no warning.

How many here keep a long gun in the closet or by the bed, ready to be grabbed from a dead sleep after hearing glass breaking in your house. Can't get much more surprised than that. I've been hearing 'safeties will get you killed' for over 25 years. Right about the time Glock got really popular.

Find me a case where that happened. I'll find you a hundred where they saved a life. Wonder why we have the term 'Glock Leg'? B1812, if you want a striker fired gun with a manual safety, they can be had. The M&P can be had with a safety, and I highly recommend the Ruger SR9. It has a nice positive manual safety, and it also has a mag disconnect, which I also like.

But the mag safety can be easily taken out if you want. Very nice trigger pull too. I haven't heard much about the trigger on the sd9, but if you are carrying it as a defensive weapon, you're not gonna notice the trigger anyway. It's not a target gun. And I'd keep that 915. No sense selling a good working gun. And if accidental discharges are your main concern, I can't imagine why you would want a striker fired gun with no safety.

What's the trigger pull weight on your SD9? Glock and most other striker fired guns ship with about 5.5 pound trigger pulls. So a very light trigger pull, no hammer to rest your finger on to help prevent AD's, and no safety? Google the term Glock Leg.

People putting holes in their legs as they holster their no safety striker fired guns. Plaxico Burris would not have gone to prison if he was carrying your 915 with safety on over instead of his Glock. I prefer DA/SA pistols. The safety is also used as a decocking lever. I always carry with the safety off. I chided some of my fellow deputies who carried our 4506 with the safety on, telling them it could get you killed.

The firearm is safe to carry with the safety off, as are all of my DA/SA weapons. That is why I like them. I don't know about that. The safety on the 4506 is in the perfect position for a duty gun. As you approach a car or whatever and you have your hand on your gun just flick it off.

It's off by the time you have it out. If you just always leave it off, it could be accidentally engaged and you would assume it is off. For me, if you're gonna carry a gun with the safety off, you either gotta use it or train yourself to flick it off as you draw even if it is already off. Assuming it is always off when it could have been bumped into on could be a problem. Very helpful to me to hear from experienced and professional gun handlers. I got my concealed carry permit way back in 1992, Florida.

Bought a SW640 and carry that, a lot, in an ankle holster. Then bought a SW4506, (1990's) beautiful gun, and traded that for a sw915 (genius!!). I am definitely keeping the SW915. The information I have received from this conversation and debate is extremely helpful: I found a SD9 on line for $120.

Less than was originally offered; realized the value of the SW915 and have started handling it again (unloaded) and will get to the range and practice with it and the sw640. I do like the safety options on the 915, including the mag safety (yes, the ccp officer, Tampa Police back in 1992 showed me the way to bypass the mag safety on my 4506) in fact the lack of a mag safety on the SD gets me back to my original reason of avoiding guns without such. I like the decocking lever. The DA/SA, practice, practice, practice. The play in the SA position is more than I remembered and will reduce the accidental discharge concern.

The DA pull on my 640 is much heavier than the SD and I am very comfortable with the revolver not having a safety. I really respect and appreciate ALL of your opinions and have learned a great deal from the short time on this forum. It's not a cliche. It's is a fact. You are the safety. Only you can pull the trigger, it will not shoot all on its own.

Well, looks like B1812 has decided to stick with the 915 and learn to master the TDA manual of arms. Smart choice. The 915 is a WAY better firearm than the SD9, and learning to get used to the DA/SA is not hard at all, and certainly won't be noticed if God forbid he ever has to use his weapon.

But B1812, did I read you correctly when you said you sold your 4506 to buy your 915? I hope you walked away with some nice cash on that one after buying the 915. The 4506 is a much more sought after and expensive weapon. B1812 also sees the difference between a DAO firearm like his 640 and the striker fired light trigger on the SD9. Some here don't. They'll just continue to chant 'my safety is between my ears'.

On another forum, there was this guy saying the same thing. Said safeties are for people afraid of guns and they would get you killed. Said he carries his Beretta PX4 Storm compact with the safety off and hammer back, and it was perfectly safe, since as long as he didn't touch the trigger, it was no different than a Glock. If you choose to carry a gun without a safety, then that is your choice. But stop with the 'safeties will get you killed' and 'my safety is between my ears'. This is a forum of gun enthusiasts, not gun experts.

Some people on this forum and others have very little trigger time and experience. Many were born after 1985 when the Glock came on the scene, and they have been brought up with the notion that safeties are not only bad, but are dangerous. If I were LEO or open carried on a belt as part of my job, I would probably choose my Beretta 92FS (DA/SA with hammer-drop safety) and I would carry it with safety on and train my draw to flick the safety off during my grab. Reason being is that if someone were to get it from my holster, there is a better chance of delay before the gun snatcher could make it work giving me time for an alternate plan. Since I'm not a LEO and do not open carry, when I do conceal carry, I have my J-Frame revolver (no safety as we all know) ready to go in a pocket. I'm probably paranoid about my 'LEO what if' scenario of someone grabbing my exposed sidearm. There are both pros and cons to having a manual safety and although I understand why someone would choose one, I have seen too many failures to get manual safeties disengaged in ECQ Force on Force to choose or recommend one on a defense handgun.

Massad Ayoob and others have documented numerous cases of such failures in actual defense scenarios over the years. He's also documented cases where a manual safety saved lives by preventing firing after a disarm(all involving LEO's AFAIK who open carry). Like almost everything, there are trade-offs, so you have to choose accordingly in context for your specific needs. Civilian defense encounters generally unfold very suddenly and occur at extremely close distances. You may be very adept at disengaging the safety at the range or in competition, but that is very different from having to do it while engaging and accessing your weapon against an armed(gun, knife, bludgeon etc.) assailant or even multiple unarmed attackers at 0-5 feet. You may have to draw while moving, while using unarmed defensive skills, shootone handed with a less than ideal grip and all of this tends to get messy and chaotic with manual dexterity being in very short supply. Instead of considering a manual safety a safeguard during a disarm, getting some quality weapon retention, integrated unarmed ECQ training would be a better bet.

I don't open carry like an LEO and advise against it, so disarm attempts are likely only when weapon is drawn and although it possibly could be an advantage in certain scenarios, I consider it more of a liability than asset. There was a mention on this thread about Rifles/Shotguns having safeties and no one having issues with them having one. A long gun and a handgun are two very different tools. There is a reason we don't see DA/SA or DAO rifles and shotguns, but do handguns. I view handguns as reactive defense tools designed to be portable, carried and brought into action quickly.

A long gun is a proactive defense tool intended for long range precision and more suited to combat type uses and hunting rather than being practical for most civilian personal defense uses. You have to find a balance between safety and effectiveness. A manual safety provides an additional safety measure against mistakes leading to unintentional discharges, but it also compromises effective use since you can also make a mistake and fail to get safety disengaged. I don't see anyone saying an enclosed hammer DAO revolver needs a manual safety nor should a semi-automatic with a comparably heavy trigger pull. I have been in armed encounters. I have fired my weapon for real stakes.

It is like driving a car, you learn correct methods, you practice those correct methods, it becomes ingrained. In my encounters, I never made a conscious decision to reach under my suitcoat, unsnap my holster, draw the weapon, put my finger on the trigger or thumb off the safety. Training and practice made that part almost automatic, like moving your foot from the gas to the brake. Being practiced (properly) on the basics lets you use your mind to evaluate elements of the situation, such as, do I shoot now? Who do I shoot first? What is behind them?

My mind recognized it was time to shoot, my eyes picked a spot on the fellow's shirt, the front sight covered that spot, I stared at that front sight and I waited for my gun to discharge. Training and practice took care of the mechanics, my brain was free to deal with the tactics.

If people you see in classes are forgetting the disengage their safety, their instruction is inadequate and they haven't had enough practice. As I said in my first post in this thread, safety, no safety, it's your choice. A mechanical safety won't eliminate accidents, you pull the trigger on a loaded gun, that gun had better discharge. Being disarmed of your handgun can happen.

People get killed with their own guns every year, by someone who took it away from them. That is why most police agencies require their officers to use holsters with multiple retention devices to prevent release the gun from the holster by the unwanted, and teach weapon retention, and to wear body armor that will stop the round the officers use. I like a thumb safety.

It's one more layer of protection that I hope I will never have to depend on. My department hasn't suffered a case of Glock Leg, but we have had multiple unintended discharges on the range and in the cleaning shed. Guess what sort of guns they were? [QUOTE=kbm6848]Well, looks like B1812 has decided to stick with the 915 and learn to master the TDA manual of arms. Smart choice. The 915 is a WAY better firearm than the SD9, and learning to get used to the DA/SA is not hard at all, and certainly won't be noticed if God forbid he ever has to use his weapon.

But B1812, did I read you correctly when you said you sold your 4506 to buy your 915? I hope you walked away with some nice cash on that one after buying the 915. The 4506 is a much more sought after and expensive weapon. Thanks, kbm6893, I just got back from the range with the 915 and 640, happy to say all performed very very well including the shooter. I intend to go monthly.

I hope to never have to use these guns and my best move would be to get me and dear ones out of a situation quickly that may turn into a shooting, but I would like to carry 24/7 just in case. My main objective, other than home defense, is not to have to hide under a desk from a nut case shooting everyone cause we f'ed up something on his account.I will definitely get a least one round off! You are right-on that I am no weapons expert, and just getting to the range once a month will be a big improvement. The 4506.let's just say that the dealer was real quick to offer several boxes of ammo with the deal.

I was young and stupid to trade it.that was one beautiful gun. Had a secret service guy shoot it.two shots, one hole. But, it was great to get back into the 915 today after learning from the forum. I paid lots of attention to the DA, SA and decocking. Definitely need to do that once a month. Now have to go clean them. Thanks kbm and everyone for your thoughts and insight, I am listening to every word.

It's more a matter of actually physically failing to get the safety(safeties) disengaged or failing to get it disengaged quick enough within the compressed time frame requirements rather than one of simply forgetting. An individual can train and drill all they want at the range, but it simply doesn't simulate actual realistic conditions very well. The reality and context is just too different. The same mostly applies to Military and Law Enforcement experience.

I'm referencing civilian ECQ counter-ambush type personal defense situations. There often seems to always be an assumption of time, distance and a shoot-out. That's just not very likely and very few people train realistically. Gabe Suarez on failing to disengage thumb safety. ' My focus is not to disparage the 1911, but I have personally seen this many times in force on force.with guys who have years and years with the 1911. When I ask them about it, the answer is 'This never happens on the range'.

Me.I like simple. If I have to grip the gun a certain way or disengage a safety before firing, I am not interested in that gun.' 'Civilian defense encounters generally unfold very suddenly and occur at extremely close distances. You may be very adept at disengaging the safety at the range or in competition, but that is very different from having to do it while engaging and accessing your weapon against an armed(gun, knife, bludgeon etc.) assailant or even multiple unarmed attackers at 0-5 feet. You may have to draw while moving, while using unarmed defensive skills, shootone handed with a less than ideal grip and all of this tends to get messy and chaotic with manual dexterity being in very short supply.' The above pretty well sums up most law enforcement armed encounters, as well.

You generally don't get to plan your gunfight. Time is not a factor in using a thumb safety. It takes much, much longer to draw and point your handgun than it does to work the safety. You work the safety during your draw stroke. It won't slow you down at all, IF YOU HAVE BEEN ADEQUATELY TRAINED AND YOU HAVE ADEQUATELY PRACTICED, such that the safety is an automatic part of your response, like looking at your front sight Next you are going to tell me you can't use your sights in a gun fight, too, it's too complicated, and there isn't enough time.

Like I said, learning to use a thumb safety is based on proper training and proper practice to make those trained responses automatic. People failing to disengage the thumb safety of a 1911 or a Hi Power or similar weapon have either had insufficient or inadequate instruction or insufficient and inadequate practice. It's like the clutch pedal in a stick shift car, you learn to drive it, you drive it a lot and you soon work that clutch without thinking about it.

Thumb safeties aren't rocket science. Many firearms trainers in and out of law enforcement have to gear their training to the lowest common denominators in their classes. A thumb safety is one more thing to learn, if a person isn't willing to learn it and make it an automatic part of their draw stroke, that is certainly their choice. If they don't, then they are probably better off with a simpler, less complicated weapon.

I prefer to have the extra layer of safety that a thumb safety gives me. The KISS principal is not a universal rule.

Always remember the second S. It's more a matter of actually physically failing to get the safety(safeties) disengaged or failing to get it disengaged quick enough within the compressed time frame requirements rather than one of simply forgetting. An individual can train and drill all they want at the range, but it simply doesn't simulate actual realistic conditions very well. The reality and context is just too different. The same mostly applies to Military and Law Enforcement experience. I'm referencing civilian ECQ counter-ambush type personal defense situations. There often seems to always be an assumption of time, distance and a shoot-out.

That's just not very likely and very few people train realistically. Gabe Suarez on failing to disengage thumb safety. ' My focus is not to disparage the 1911, but I have personally seen this many times in force on force.with guys who have years and years with the 1911. When I ask them about it, the answer is 'This never happens on the range'. Me.I like simple. If I have to grip the gun a certain way or disengage a safety before firing, I am not interested in that gun.' This guy gets it.

There was an article I was reading a while back, and I wish I had it bookmarked now, about things people don't often take into account regarding self-defense situations. The author of the article was some type of law enforcement or military, I don't recall which, and in the article he used a lot of statistics and highlighted many cases involving other law enforcement and military, who are highly trained. One of the things he discussed was that in the vast majority (something like over 80%) of self defense situations, the defender ends up firing their handgun with only one hand. In light of that, he suggests carrying a handgun/caliber that you can easily manage with one hand. He shared cases from highly trained military and law enforcement who had to use their weapons in self-defense.

One was a police officer who drew his weapon and accidentally hit his mag release. A second police officer drew his weapon, disengaged his safety, but then accidentally re-engaged the safety. Another case was of an army ranger who got into a combat situation, but in spite of all his training, he panicked and couldn't remember what to do. The point is, if you are attacked, you're not going to see it coming and you're not going to have time to prepare. It will be sudden and it will be in your face. You can have all the training and practice in the world, but once panic sets in, all of that training goes out the window. If that happens to highly trained military and law enforcement, then it will be even more true for the average citizen.

I know everybody wants to think they are a ninja, but reality is different from fantasy. This guy gets it. There was an article I was reading a while back, and I wish I had it bookmarked now, about things people don't often take into account regarding self-defense situations. The author of the article was some type of law enforcement or military, I don't recall which, and in the article he used a lot of statistics and highlighted many cases involving other law enforcement and military, who are highly trained. One of the things he discussed was that in the vast majority (something like over 80%) of self defense situations, the defender ends up firing their handgun with only one hand. In light of that, he suggests carrying a handgun/caliber that you can easily manage with one hand. He shared cases from highly trained military and law enforcement who had to use their weapons in self-defense.

The point is, if you are attacked, you're not going to see it coming and you're not going to have time to prepare. It will be sudden and it will be in your face. You can have all the training and practice in the world, but once panic sets in, all of that training goes out the window. If that happens to highly trained military and law enforcement, then it will be even more true for the average citizen. I know everybody wants to think they are a ninja, but reality is different from fantasy. Not using a safety because of the.001% chance of actually firing a weapon in self defense, while ignoring the much better odds of an ND during routine handling is pretty stupid, if you ask me.

Not to mention all those people who have successfully used a weapon with a safety in self defense. Were they ninjas or just people who were competent with their weapons? Glock used to have a slogan.

Something like 'no safety levers to fumble with'. Do we really want people to be so lax in the handling of a deadly weapon, that they can't take 10-15 minutes a day to draw and disengage a safety (unloaded of course)? And why wasn't there a 'revolver leg' catch phrase like there is 'Glock leg' like there is today? Not using a safety because of the.001% chance of actually firing a weapon in self defense, while ignoring the much better odds of an ND during routine handling is pretty stupid, if you ask me. Not to mention all those people who have successfully used a weapon with a safety in self defense. Were they ninjas or just people who were competent with their weapons? Glock used to have a slogan.

Something like 'no safety levers to fumble with'. Do we really want people to be so lax in the handling of a deadly weapon, that they can't take 10-15 minutes a day to draw and disengage a safety (unloaded of course)? And why wasn't there a 'revolver leg' catch phrase like there is 'Glock leg' like there is today? I guess not everyone is as elite as you. 'Civilian defense encounters generally unfold very suddenly and occur at extremely close distances. You may be very adept at disengaging the safety at the range or in competition, but that is very different from having to do it while engaging and accessing your weapon against an armed(gun, knife, bludgeon etc.) assailant or even multiple unarmed attackers at 0-5 feet. You may have to draw while moving, while using unarmed defensive skills, shootone handed with a less than ideal grip and all of this tends to get messy and chaotic with manual dexterity being in very short supply.'

The above pretty well sums up most law enforcement armed encounters, as well. You generally don't get to plan your gunfight. Time is not a factor in using a thumb safety. It takes much, much longer to draw and point your handgun than it does to work the safety. You work the safety during your draw stroke.

It won't slow you down at all, IF YOU HAVE BEEN ADEQUATELY TRAINED AND YOU HAVE ADEQUATELY PRACTICED, such that the safety is an automatic part of your response, like looking at your front sight Next you are going to tell me you can't use your sights in a gun fight, too, it's too complicated, and there isn't enough time. Like I said, learning to use a thumb safety is based on proper training and proper practice to make those trained responses automatic. People failing to disengage the thumb safety of a 1911 or a Hi Power or similar weapon have either had insufficient or inadequate instruction or insufficient and inadequate practice. It's like the clutch pedal in a stick shift car, you learn to drive it, you drive it a lot and you soon work that clutch without thinking about it. Thumb safeties aren't rocket science. Many firearms trainers in and out of law enforcement have to gear their training to the lowest common denominators in their classes. A thumb safety is one more thing to learn, if a person isn't willing to learn it and make it an automatic part of their draw stroke, that is certainly their choice.

If they don't, then they are probably better off with a simpler, less complicated weapon. I prefer to have the extra layer of safety that a thumb safety gives me. The KISS principal is not a universal rule. Always remember the second S. I just don't see a whole lot of commonality between police work/shootings and civilian personal defense. While there is overlap, opposing directives of one being primarily proactive vs the other primarily reactive leads to the dynamics being very different. A flaw in the analogy about driving a stick shift is when learning to drive a car with a manual transmission, you're performing the action and becoming skilled at it in the exact conditions/environment that you actually use and apply the skill.

It's often difficult to apply a particular skill effectively in conditions completely different from the context you're familiar with or on which your training was based. And regarding sights; At 0-5 feet, yes I would definitely say don't concern yourself with your sights. You may even(probably) have/want to fire from a compressed or retention position. In a reactive defense scenario inside 5 yards or so, sights are mostly irrelevant. And it's not 'gunfights' that civilians should only be concerned about since gun vs gun shoot-outs are exceedingly rare, but that often seems to be the sole focus. It's in these same ECQ scenarios where a manual safety would most likely be a potential problem.

The best way to pressure test issues such as these IMO is with reality-based Force on Force training. A contradiction I keep seeing is the idea that proper training eliminates potential mistakes for operating a manual safety, but no amount of training can overcome mistakes leading to unintentional discharges. I guess not everybody wants to put in the time to learn something.

'Panic is the absence of a trained response.' I'm no ninja, I'm a clumsy, uncoordinated old man now, but I got good training because I thought I might need it someday and practiced because what I was taught rang true. And when I needed it, I responded the way I was trained and the way I practiced, because the training and practice became ingrained enough that it became my natural response. Jeff Cooper was criticized that his 'Modern Technique' was too complicated, that people would forget what he taught and do whatever. He had many students come back to him after they had needed their gun and told him, 'Hey, it happened unexpectedly and then it was suddenly over and guess what, it worked!' There's lots of guns with lots of mechanisms out there.

We are lucky that, in this country, anyways, we can choose which piece of gear we like and are comfortable with. My hands are medium sized with short fingers. I can't reliably operate a slide-mounted safety with my gun hand thumb. So I chose another system that my hand can reliably operate. Everybody should do that. That's my take.

I'm just repeating myself now, so I'll stop. I guess not everyone is as elite as you.

Elite is pronouncing a device that has been on weapons for a couple hundred years as 'dangerous'. We've had one person on here who has actually been in a gunfight. His safety didn't 'get him killed'. He is competent in the handling of his weapon.

Carrying a weapon is a responsibility. We ALL owe it to the rest of the world to be competent with them. When I got my SR9, I had to adjust. I used to carry S&W 3rd gen's and berettas. Slide mounted safety that is up to fire. The SR9 and LC9-S have down to fire, so it was an adjustment.

So I spent about 10 minutes a night just picking up the weapons and taking off safe, then putting it back on safe as I put it down. Took about 2 weeks before it became automatic. So much so that when I take my Beretta's or Smiths to the range I get it backwards. But the Beretta's and Smiths aren't carry guns anymore. They're range guns for pleasure.